[SmartRutter]

When I was playing some mzx games on my cousin's laptop all of the MODs sounded weird. Some would only play 1 track of the music, some would just loop and play a few notes over and over and some barely worked at all.

Is this a problem with the Mac osx version of mzx or just my cousin's laptop?

[Revvy]

Links to example files, please.

[SmartRutter]

One of the MODs that wouldn't work was WEIRDA.MOD.
all it did was play only the first track.

Attached File(s)

•  WEIRDA.MOD (0bytes)
  Number of downloads: 18

[Dr Lancer-X]

Can someone who has access to a Mac OS X confirm whether this is a problem with the Mac OS X version of MZX? I really can't test this myself.

[Nedemai]

I just played that mod on my computer and noticed that it is stereo channeled, so if the laptop has only the left or right channel on(or a mono speaker set to one channel), all you would hear is one track out of both of them.... it might be whats happening on your laptop anyways...

[SmartRutter]

Maybe. Although on a few other MODs I such as Mario2.xm I heard absolutly nothing.

Attached File(s)

•  Mario2.XM (0bytes)
  Number of downloads: 22

[Nedemai]

Probably isn't what I said then....

[Revvy]

I am trying to get Beige to test these. Evevryone bug him on IRC.

[SmartRutter]

While I was playing Weirdness Chapter 1 on my cousin's Mac OS X laptop awhile ago, whenever I moved the player it would just just say messages like "Me am stupid too" and "Random guessing will get you nowhere" when I wasn't even using an item.
Does anyone know why its doing this?

[ajs]

Firstly, libmodplug is not the best written piece of software in the world. Remember that it used to be a Windows only, MFC-ridden application. Portability efforts have been concentrated on Linux and little (Intel) endian systems. OS X runs native binaries as strictly big (Motorala) endian (though I believe the architecture is capable of runtime endian switching). Anyway, if it doesn't work, we'll not be able to fix it without access to hardware.

I haven't talked to Exo about this, so don't take it to be a solution, but since 2.81 MZX has a new "modular" audio architecture. Adding support for another module playback library would be straightforward, assuming it has at least the features of Modplug. If somebody with a Mac and a bit of UNIX experience could confirm that a library like 'mikmod' worked better, we might be able to add compile-time support for it. I Am Not Exophase though, so I can't confirm he'd agree to this.

As for MZX bugs, the OS X version of MZX is not well tested. Please talk to either me or Exo for debugging tips.

--ajs

[GetDizzy]

caveat: mikmod supports less formats. . of course, it supports all the major module formats, it just doesnt support obscure stuff that modplug supports like Jazz Jackrabbit Music and such.

[SmartRutter]

even it if it supports less formats, as long as it it could work on my cousin's Mac OS X I'd be satisfied.
And what exact formats does it support?

[asgromo]

SmartRutter, on Mar 14 2006, 04:31 PM, said:

And what exact formats does it support?

feast your eyes on the power of just looking this crap up =(

[ajs]

Format support for alternative module libraries is less relevant now we have a gdm converter. Really, the only formats people use widely are XM, IT, MOD and S3M (and of course in the community GDM, which is converted to S3M). Mikmod is explicitly noted as having a Macintosh port on the link asgromo provided, so it should definitely work if that is indeed the problem with module playback.

If we could get a bit more information about why modplug isn't working, we could probably think about what to do.

--ajs

[SmartRutter]

Could someone tell me where I can get mzx 2.81c for Mac OS X?
Because whenever I try loading worlds in mzx 2.81 it just crashes
and it gets really annoying.

[Terryn]

here.

[ajs]

For what it's worth, I pulled in a new version of libmodplug (0.8) which contains some S3M endian fixes; with some luck, it'll repair the issues people are having on OS X with module playback.

I'll send my changes to Exo and I'm sure they'll be in 2.81d.

--ajs

[SmartRutter]

I just tried mzx2.81c for Mac OS X at my cousin's and it won't start.
all it said was:

Last login: Tue Apr 18 22:23:20 on ttyp1
/Users/bethrutt/Desktop/mzx281cosx/mzx281c; exit
Welcome to Darwin!
[Beth-Rutters-Computer:~] bethrutt% /Users/bethrutt/Desktop/mzx281cosx/mzx281c; exit
dyld: /Users/bethrutt/Desktop/mzx281cosx/mzx281c can't open library: /Users/ajs/dev/lib/libSDL-1.2.0.dylib  (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Trace/BPT trap
logout
[Process completed]

Anyone know how to fix this?

[SmartRutter]

It's been about a week or two since I last posted and there any reason why no one has answered my question yet?

[Spectere]

Because almost nobody here uses Mac OS, perhaps?

If I remember correctly, that was listed as a known issue somewhere. Try searching for "/Users/ajs/dev/lib/libSDL-1.2.0.dylib" on the forums.

[SmartRutter]

I just searched it, but I didn't find anything.

[ajs]

Sorry, please just use a libSDL dylib from a previous build (like b).

I can't debug MZX properly on OS X because it has an extremely badly broken linker, the SDL workaround isn't documented and I don't own a Mac. Oh yeah, and I do it all over SSH so I've never even seen it start.

--ajs (somebody buy him a mac)

[SmartRutter]

ajs, on May 29 2006, 10:03 PM, said:

Sorry, please just use a libSDL dylib from a previous build (like b).

I can't debug MZX properly on OS X because it has an extremely badly broken linker, the SDL workaround isn't documented and I don't own a Mac. Oh yeah, and I do it all over SSH so I've never even seen it start.

--ajs (somebody buy him a mac)

OK. Thanks for answering my question. I'll tell my cousin that tomorrow.