Summer 2010 Day of Zeux site up
#31
Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:22 AM
Also, 8 DQs was the most we've had, again, half the entries that time (Valor/Organized Crime).
<Exophase> HES STEALING MAH AIRSHIP!!!!!!11111111
#32
Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:19 AM
I know how the defaults work, but it seems to me that several games don't actually suggest a topic, let alone a scoresheet.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#33
Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:24 AM
#34
Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:48 AM
Seventh Shade, on 18 July 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:
I agree, although I don't think this work is really necessary; probably just enough to manually reject these entries from the redistribution. Maybe have a loser's pack for those who really want it.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#35
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:42 AM
Exophase, on 19 July 2010 - 12:39 AM, said:
What are you talking about, the theme is right there on the title screen.
Now, "no game discernable," that's a perfectly valid criticism.
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- C.S. Lewis
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This week, on LANCER PONDERS:
<lolilover> I notice alot of Japanese fiction involving kemono-mimi characters always has the main character saving an innocent animal and then the animal returns as a girl to reward him for his kindness.
<lolilover> Well there's a cat that is always wandering around in my backyard. Should I feed it in the hopes that one day a catgirl will show up at my door?
#36
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:47 AM
Exophase, on 18 July 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:
This and,
Exophase, on 18 July 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:
This.
If some one stuck a bunch of image files of their last vacation in a .zip and submitted it to the archive we would reject it. Why do we redistribute and archive DoZ entries that don't even contain .mzx's? Just throw them out.
<Cybersilver> "All my sugestions are for FUTER VERSIONS. Say it with me Fu-ter futer. Yep..."
9-21-2009, SFMZX game play video: HERE
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#37
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:48 AM
commodorejohn, on 18 July 2010 - 09:42 PM, said:
I don't think "hello" was one of the topics available.
#38
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:34 AM
1) I've made my video converter DURING the DoZ.
2) The app that makes the "what color goes where" and "what char/color to put when"'s output can be used outside the DoZ or even outside MegaZeux, so it's also fine. (I consulted that one for 30 minutes with lolilover)
3) Theme for 85132 is said outright on the title screen AND in the scoresheet_info.txt.
4) why do you want to ban super mario bros super show AND justin bieber, bro
5) The videos have feasible use outside the DoZ so IMHO they should be fine.
#39
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:37 AM
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#41
Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:50 PM
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Great. Now how exactly are we determining "feasible use"? Or maybe better put, what wouldn't have a feasible use? Of course I disagree with Lancer's opinion on this and hope future DoZ's don't adopt this mindset, and I certainly hope that the escalation we've seen that has resulted in this level of non-DoZ entries this time is not encouraged any longer.
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Don't care, you were using non-audio material that you didn't make, during the DoZ or otherwise. The content in your game was made almost exclusively before the DoZ.
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Great, so maybe at the very least you could have stopped at including that and not including the stupid video.
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Just because I said "see 41608" doesn't mean everything I said about 41608 applies to your entry.
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Why would anyone not want to ban them..
And finally:
asiekierka, on 19 July 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:
Now it comes full circle and we're back to trying to define "feasible use." Since I guess that includes anything anyone could theoretically enjoy that now includes anything.
In short, shame on you Lancer for actually encouraging this shit.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#42
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:27 PM
Shouldn't that be sufficient?
edit: Dammit asie, why the HELL are you making it so we have to do this in the first place!?
#43
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:43 PM
Also, if you ban video converters as external apps i can just easily make them fully internal in Robotic.
And for the next DoZ i can actually film stuff during the DoZ, can't I?
But TBH to stop any video conversion you should leave Palzor, Charcon and Charworks there. And nothing else.
#44
Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:07 PM
#45
Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:18 PM
Exophase, on 20 July 2010 - 01:50 AM, said:
Exophase, on 20 July 2010 - 01:50 AM, said:
i said application. i was not referring to taking VIDEO from other places that you most certainly didn't create yourself and didn't create in the DoZ and using it as input to produce whatever. that is still very OBVIOUSLY a violation of the DoZ rules and asie said nothing to me about it at all when he talked to me about it
either stop projecting or explain exactly what your issue is with my external software exemption. i felt i was fairly explicit when explaining this before. the solution is not to only allow a couple of specific applications; why should we be forced to use either crippled shit like palzor and charworks just because someone happened to convert a video for some DoZ using an application created beforehand which was in contravention of other rules ANYWAY.
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#46
Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:46 PM
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and the stupidity of mankind, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
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#47
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:01 PM
<Exophase> HES STEALING MAH AIRSHIP!!!!!!11111111
#48
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:48 PM
asgromo, on 19 July 2010 - 01:07 PM, said:
Hey, that torrent utterly crawled for me and took a pretty long time to download. This is not a moot argument and it should have an impact on DoZ distribution in the future. Would you prefer if I just responded to him en-masse? He listed his points laid out so...
Lancer-X said:
"Projecting"? Man, here I thought "passive aggressive" was over/misused, but this really takes the cake. I'm not even sure if I should ask you to explain that.
Look, this is all a pretty big misunderstanding. asiekierka in his infinite retardedness took your quote grossly out of context (probably on purpose) in order to make it look like you were talking about what's "okay" for people to submit. Basically saying "go ahead and submit insta-DQed shit, so long as it can be construed as serving some kind of purpose", rather than being a statement about what utilities you can use, something I never talked about in my original post on this thread. That might sound awfully stupid. But it'd also be exactly the kind of statement that would convince people it's okay to submit DOS ports of MZX (and I'm gonna blame the SuperZZT submission on the DOS port because I guess someone thought that was funny), and from asie's comments I can only conclude that that's exactly how he took it. Or chose to take it.
Yes, it's going to be DQed. But this stuff shouldn't even be distributed. And we should do whatever we can to discourage this shit.
asiekierka's done good DoZ's before, I think someone just needs to smack him upside the head a few hundred times so he gets more clearly what is and isn't suitable for DoZ. Of course there's no point singling him out this time. I feel more like taking dragging out and shooting whoever did that other video conversion, for busting my eardrums a few times.
(yes this post was edited a lot as it became clearer to me just wtf was going on here, if anyone was busy taking an hour to reply go delete it and reply again)
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#49
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:08 PM
xx̊y (OST) - HELLQUEST (OST) - Zeux I: Labyrinth of Zeux (OST) (DOS OST)
w/ Lancer-X and/or asgromo: Pandora's Gate - Thanatos Insignia - no True(n) - For Elise OST
MegaZeux: Online Help File - Keycode Guide - Joystick Guide - Official GIT Repository
#50
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:32 PM
Lachesis, on 19 July 2010 - 03:08 PM, said:
Exactly...
I'm amazed this turned into an argument on how to prevent people from submitting video to the DoZ. Video is fine, so long as a) it's part of an actual DoZ game and not you just stuffing content into a .mzx because you know people will view it and b) you actually created the video content. That's all.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#51
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:49 PM
Oh, and Exo, no, I was being kind of a douchebag is all. I don't think it's a moot issue, necessarily. Just that asiekierka probably need not be included in its discussion (maybe this is a little insensitive or disingenuous).
yet another edit: in fact, how about this. just disqualify first, THEN release. disqualification really shouldn't take long at all, the onus need not be on the judges to do it, to look at the games in the first place, to write about them, and people can stop caring about the games off the bat. Any proper host should probably be trusted with that limited fiat power/responsibility...
I understand that's what Lachesis basically just said. JUST SPELLIN' IT OUT A LITTLE MORE
#52
Posted 19 July 2010 - 09:33 PM
asie didn't want to go with that plan, so we split, I did something serious (ending up doing pretty much the whole thing on my own), he tried to do something serious and then pretty much gave up (although hearing about the 15FPS to 137FPS improvement was sounding promising), falling back to one of the plans (awful video to make the judges cringe).
There was another plan, but it'll have to wait till next time when we have less chance of winning (asie, you could've still tried to emulate an 8086, i don't think they're THAT impossible; besides, you had at least 10 hours left).
In all honesty, the idea of a horrible joke game came from me feeling completely smashed soon after going full-circle (24 hours) at the last DoZ. I could not attempt that this time, and TBQH I had no intention of doing it even if I could, as it is now the second week of the second trimester of university.
Exophase, on 19 July 2010 - 12:39 PM, said:
The theme was Immortality, as indicated by the health not going down.
Not that I was a part of that team, though.
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<gm|lap> totally
<Stephen> good
<Stephen> i will bury you
#53
Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:02 PM
iamgreaser, on 19 July 2010 - 02:33 PM, said:
By writing a pretty damn good story and making the game consistent. The raycaster was impressive, but swapping the fire key from Space to Control rather irritated me, and when are we going to abandon the concept of MZX games starring MZXers?
Serious damage to important body parts pretty much ruins any plans you had for living. Bummer.
#54
Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:29 PM
iamgreaser, on 19 July 2010 - 05:33 PM, said:
Not that I was a part of that team, though.
No. Just no.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#55
Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:25 AM
Don't think too hard about ninety-seven thousand five hundred and sixty-three
#57
Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:54 AM
weasel, on 19 July 2010 - 10:02 PM, said:
When someone goes back in time and assassinates Inmate before he makes Cans.
#58
Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:14 AM
Baby Bonnie Hood, on 19 July 2010 - 09:54 PM, said:
Gotcha. On it.
"The fact that I say I've one of the best, is called honesty." -Akwende
"Megazeux is not ment to be just ASCII, it is ANSI!" - T-bone6
"I hate it when you get all exo on me." - emalkay
Exophase can what Rubi-cant.
exoware is ware ur ware is exoware
ps. not loking 4 new membrs kthx
#59
Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:32 AM
#60
Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:20 AM
I predict this time around the hammer gets dropped on Wervyn for submitting protest scores that are all negative, while lancer submits his of course entirely in japanese.
I'll get the next proposal rolling:
Judges should have to submit their results as .pdf's to make them more official looking.
<Cybersilver> "All my sugestions are for FUTER VERSIONS. Say it with me Fu-ter futer. Yep..."
9-21-2009, SFMZX game play video: HERE
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