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Winter 2010 Day of Zeux Results lolol that was a joke, here are the real scores, fuck you kuddy

#1 User is offline   Kuddy 

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:10 AM

DISQUALIFIED ENTRIES: 62239 (Malwyn, Risu2112, Wervyn) and 72165 (Seventh Shade), both due to low theme average

12TH PLACE: Last Place or Bust (mzxrules) - isolation puzzle puzzle platformer - 184/1200 (grats on reaching ur goal)
11TH PLACE: For Liberty (Spike) - For Liberty - 514/1200
10TH PLACE: The Bee's Knees (Captain Failmore) - ALIENS ON AN ELEVATOR - 563/1200
9TH PLACE: Knights of Danika (Goshi) - PRISON ESCAPE - 587/1200
8TH PLACE: The Moanatoans (ThdPro) - TurnCoat - 643/1200
7TH PLACE: Vortex Productions (Hey all, RyanThunder here.) - Voluntary Solitude - 722/1200
6TH PLACE: MEDIUM RARE WARE (Lachesis, Captain Hammer, Druaga) - THOSE ALIEN INVADER! - 766/1200
5TH PLACE: Oh god, dragons (Kom) - Abandoned - 775/1200
4TH PLACE: logicow AKA logicow and the logicow (logicow) - Duck Rescue - 788/1200

3RD PLACE: Fight For Ya' Life, AKA Maxim and the Maxims (Maxim, Maxim, Maxim) - Antares - 795/1200
2ND PLACE: Team Betamax (GreaseMonkey, CJA, asiekiurkel) - FORSAKEN DAYLIGHT - 937/1200
1ST PLACE: Ku-Ritoru-Ritoru (Lancer-X) - Celestial Altar - 1063/1200

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Thanks for flying Day of Zeux. We hope you enjoy our great deals this summer.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:42 AM

Old-Sckool now presents... All of my last place DoZ finishes!

Winter 2005
8th - Entry 78523- Valor - Hero's Quest - TEAM SUF 4!! (Old-Sckool) (Score: 475/1600)

Summer 2008
8th Place - Entry 51921 - Summer 2008 DsDoZ and the End of the World - Hellquest - Triumverate of Villains That Have to Poop (Spectere, Rowan, Old-Sckool) (Score: 414/1600)

Winter 2008
15th Place - Entry 99544 - Water - a Winter '08 DoZ game - :Q Labs (Old-Sckool) (Score: 121/1600)

and finally...

Winter 2009
12TH PLACE - Entry 11617 - isolation puzzle puzzle platformer - Last Place or Bust (mzxrules) - 239/2000

on that note, was my doz entry REALLY worse than Hero's Quest?
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:59 PM

It's not often that someone flying solo wins, so congratulations Lancer on scoring so well and winning first place.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 02:48 PM

i just realized that, while i incorporated the voice acting into the sound score for voluntary solitude, i totally forgot to comment on it!
short version: points for doing it, but not too many points because it sounded kinda amateurish and not really emotive. sorry i forgot to talk about it.

also please feel free everyone to pm or email me comments on my scores. i'm new at this whole judging thing and looking to improve.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 07:58 PM

I AM HAPY :3
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 10:02 PM

View Postastral, on Jan 11 2010, 08:59 AM, said:

It's not often that someone flying solo wins, so congratulations Lancer on scoring so well and winning first place.


Solo entries win pretty regularly. Hell, Lancer won solo last time too.

And rats, your scores are gone now. I wanted to see what the fuss was about.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 12:04 AM

My drama senses are tingling! Something happened to this thread!
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:49 AM

WHERE IS MY FIFTH PLACE KUDDY

YOU SAID I'D GET FIFTH PLACE
Yes, I've been informed what happened, oh well

This post has been edited by Lachesis: 12 January 2010 - 01:51 AM

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:38 AM

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Click to download a zip with a bigger version of this image if you want to scale it down differently, and a collection of screenshots from all of the games (besides one notable exception). This is meant for the archive, and I'd have put them up myself, but I didn't see this DoZ in the Competitions section. I plan to do this for Summer 09 and possibly a few more of the more recent DoZs, and Kuddy mentioned wanting to go back through the old DoZs, doing something similar.

This post has been edited by Lachesis: 12 January 2010 - 04:40 AM

"Let's just say I'm a GOOD hacker, AND virus maker. I'm sure you wouldn't like to pay for another PC would you?"

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:52 AM

View PostPyro1588, on Jan 11 2010, 09:48 AM, said:

i just realized that, while i incorporated the voice acting into the sound score for voluntary solitude, i totally forgot to comment on it!
short version: points for doing it, but not too many points because it sounded kinda amateurish and not really emotive. sorry i forgot to talk about it.

also please feel free everyone to pm or email me comments on my scores. i'm new at this whole judging thing and looking to improve.


What you heard was actually the second take of that voice clip. I wanted to improve on it (since the more times I heard it the more times I kept picking it apart), but I didn't want to waste time constantly retaking it; I was on a deadline, after all. However, I still think it works for what it's worth. I kind of left emotion out of it since the setting was pretty grim to begin with it.

Regardless, thank you for the comment.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 05:30 AM

i like voice acting and more people should do it
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:25 PM

i'm slightly confused. we had five judges, no? there are only three scoresheets listed. did kuddy and astral not judge, or do i sense a bit of drama in here somewhere?
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:43 PM

I could be wrong, but Kuddy removed his own due to lateness and lack of comments, and Astral's were removed due to them supposedly not being very good.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 04:55 PM

The wiki says that Kuddy's got removed due to incompleteness and that astral's didn't meet the average word-count requirement.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 08:00 PM

Mine were honestly probably removed for being overly critical and dismissive, which they were since almost all of the games were terrible. But, nobody's actually given me any notice as to why, and I was certainly never told there was a word-count stipulation.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 09:18 PM

I think it's not so much the word count as the fact that I think you're supposed to elaborate on each scoring category instead of writing a short-ish essay and then assigning a bunch of numbers to it. Looking at other DoZ's, I don't think that the fact that you were being harsh is the reason why your scores would be rejected.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:17 PM

View Postastral, on Jan 12 2010, 03:00 PM, said:

Mine were honestly probably removed for being overly critical and dismissive, which they were since almost all of the games were terrible. But, nobody's actually given me any notice as to why, and I was certainly never told there was a word-count stipulation.


You mean after telling you you should be ashamed of yourself in the other thread Wervyn didn't actually give specific criticism? How sloppy. Personally, I didn't think your scores were highly terrible, with the exception of 11617 (which can largely be written off due to being bottom of the barrel). But you really need to give detailed comments with each section, and more core material, less side commentary. Some of the scores seemed contrary to the text at hand. Fortunately the scores struck me as the more fitting. The profanity was really not necessary ;P

Calling 36306 the best entry in the DoZ means you have pretty bad taste (as with giving its story category a higher score than say, Celestial Alter's), but that doesn't automatically make you a bad judge. We've put up with worse. You're better than Old Sckool, at least.

At any rate, while I didn't think 11617's scores mattered that much I do think that you shouldn't give a game that wasn't clearly a joke all 0's, with the exception of a 50% music score for no audio. I don't know if the audio score was just for pity or what, but if it was then it's not really okay to break consistency even if the game is a write-off. If it really was consistent then you absolutely shouldn't give a game half points for no music. The convention is to give 1 point for not utterly damaging our ears.

The word count requirement wasn't made up on the spot, but what really is supposed to happen is that the host reviews the scores and if there's something glaringly wrong with them makes the judge improve them. But I understand stuff came up for Kuddy that made it hard to really do this, and this IS the first time that we've had a narrow 1 week judging period. I suppose Kuddy should have passed it along to someone else to handle, but what can you do.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 10:34 PM

View PostExophase, on Jan 12 2010, 02:17 PM, said:

this IS the first time that we've had a narrow 1 week judging period

As a judge who had to deal with that deadline last time, that's definitely false. I definitely had a 1-week judging deadline last summer.
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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:56 PM

View PostKKairos, on Jan 12 2010, 04:34 PM, said:

As a judge who had to deal with that deadline last time, that's definitely false. I definitely had a 1-week judging deadline last summer.

qft. last competition had a 1-week limit. i specifically remember werv talking about how the days of eating pealed grapes from the hands of nubile young slave girls was over and how the judges were going to be held to a higher standard.

also, for the record, i gave 4 points for no sound. it's not enough to make or break a game, but it's enough to punish an entry like 72165 for including but failing to utilize some really awful stuff and a bunch of zip-bloating sound effects.

and i'm still waiting for more feedback. i've already had one author ask for clarification on how and why i scored their game the way i did. like i said, if i'm doing this badly i want to know so that i can improve (or possibly pass up next time.) feedback plz?
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:10 AM

Nobody told me about the grapes...
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

Alright, second time then. It all kinda blends together after a while and I don't remember the last one that well.
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:18 AM

View PostPyro1588, on Jan 12 2010, 05:56 PM, said:

also, for the record, i gave 4 points for no sound. it's not enough to make or break a game, but it's enough to punish an entry like 72165 for including but failing to utilize some really awful stuff and a bunch of zip-bloating sound effects.


It did use the sound effects. I'm not sure why they didn't work for you unless you had the music turned way up. It was already too loud as it is. Your scores seemed perfectly fair other than that. Did you actually think the sound effects were just bad in general?
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 03:06 AM

You gave me a 7 for sound and said I only used one song, a blatant lie which can be disproved in a minute, tops, by looking at my code
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 03:29 PM

woah, my bad! looking back, i see that i did misscore lachesis's entry on sound. i don't know how i got to that conclusion but lachesis is definitely right. also seventh's game is now playing sound for me as well. again, i'm not sure what i did. i guess i might have accidentally disabled sound effects in the menu. i apologize about both of these. this is totally my fault. i'm also sorry that i failed to realize it until after final scores were uploaded.

again, sorry about this guys. big mistake on my part =(
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

Errors happen. :confused:
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