[Baby Bonnie Hood]

Then I guess I don't really need to change my review at all other than removing the old version notice.

[Exophase]

Lancer-X, on 23 September 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

[*]Fixed one particularly bad piece of sequence breaking that makes the final are accessible before it makes sense.

Now I'm curious what this was. And I thought I was sequence breaking the game pretty bad already.

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Was it actually somehow possible to enter the black maze before leaving Eden? That's what it sounds like you're saying but that shouldn't have been possible, right..?

[Dr Lancer-X]

Exophase, on 24 September 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

Now I'm curious what this was. And I thought I was sequence breaking the game pretty bad already.

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Was it actually somehow possible to enter the black maze before leaving Eden? That's what it sounds like you're saying but that shouldn't have been possible, right..?

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Before getting your party back in Nexus >_>

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

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Oh, I think I know where that can be possible. Instead of freeing Natalie, you could just log back into Eden and probably solo the game from there. Am I right?

[Dr Lancer-X]

Baby Bonnie Hood, on 24 September 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

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Oh, I think I know where that can be possible. Instead of freeing Natalie, you could just log back into Eden and probably solo the game from there. Am I right?

Yeah

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Or you could get Natalie and finish the game from there.. or you could get Karen and finish the game from there, none of which makes sense because before the 'revelation' part Sophia isn't supposed to be able to unlock it- and later scenes, including the ending stuff assume the presence of all party members.

This was such a bad break I couldn't leave it as-is. There's actually at least one other serious break, but I deliberately didn't fix it because I think it's hilarious.

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The way to get to the Red Maze, and hence to Nexus and that entire second part of the game is supposed to be through the Star Tower. However you can access the Sword Tower, which does not have any restrictions (other than needing to get through the shit-hard diamond floor and the boss). This also means the only plot-related activity you need to do before getting to the Red Maze is getting your full party initially. This could result in some oddities, and I haven't actually tried it out, but you could probably:

• Get rid of Natalie by going to Toraria.
  
• Ascend the Sword Tower and get to the Red Altar
  
• Wake up in Nexus and go free Natalie from the terminal.
  
• Log into Eden and go visit the two mystics, complete their quests
  
• Get Natalie back (again)

No, this won't add two Natalies to your party.
I don't know what results this would have in the game but I didn't fix it so it's still there!
EDIT: Actually, it's also possible I added in code to make the options for talking to the mystics about some of this stuff disappear once you get to Nexus. Don't remember, don't feel like checking. You'd be able to finish the game anyway.
EDIT 2: .. there probably isn't a path from the Sword Tower teleporter to the Red Altar with any items you could possibly have by following this, so maybe it's impossible and therefore not a bug at all?

[melchizedek xth]

Hey, Lancer X!

I'm a huge fan of Meritous and Eternal Eclipse Taoyarin and while I'm still starting out in this, I am really enjoying it thus far. But I have a question... what does "Attack" do when an item gives me, say, 1.3x Attack and 1.3x Damage? The NPCs have been pretty helpful as far as mechanical explanations go, but I haven't gotten to this one yet, if it is discussed. I sort of have a handle on the other stats (I think).

[Dr Lancer-X]

melchizedek xth, on 26 September 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

Hey, Lancer X!

I'm a huge fan of Meritous and Eternal Eclipse Taoyarin and while I'm still starting out in this, I am really enjoying it thus far. But I have a question... what does "Attack" do when an item gives me, say, 1.3x Attack and 1.3x Damage? The NPCs have been pretty helpful as far as mechanical explanations go, but I haven't gotten to this one yet, if it is discussed. I sort of have a handle on the other stats (I think).

One of the mystics has that info, but basically, the Attack stat affects:

• Damage
  
• Chance to hit
  
• The power of 'battle art'

Damage only affects the amount of damage you deal and is applied after those, so attack is generally better.

[melchizedek xth]

Lancer-X, on 25 September 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

One of the mystics has that info, but basically, the Attack stat affects:

• Damage
• Chance to hit
• The power of 'battle art'

Damage only affects the amount of damage you deal and is applied after those, so attack is generally better.

Awesome, thank you! and thanks for the game too, of course.

[Otto Germain]

Now that was a tricky puzzle. This was very satisfying:

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[Baby Bonnie Hood]

The only puzzles I skipped were that, the one with the rotating bridges (I actually did some of it, but I couldn't get all the chests), and the floor slider thing.

[Lachesis]

Yeah. Once you figure out the right basic setup the hardest part about completing it is to not screw up. Which is really easy to do, incidentally (see my original screenshot, ngggghhh)

[Exophase]

Baby Bonnie Hood, on 02 October 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

The only puzzles I skipped were that, the one with the rotating bridges (I actually did some of it, but I couldn't get all the chests), and the floor slider thing.

Same here. I actually spent a while on the floor slider thinking I was making good progress but it wasn't enough in the end.

[Lachesis]

The floor slider was pretty brutal, I got the square maybe half-way over but couldn't figure out how to do much more Lancer really needs to upload that solution video...

[Dr Lancer-X]

https://www.youtube....h?v=Qi9rJkdedkg

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

Nearly 9 minutes D:

[cuckeverlasting]

I'm stuck on the bottom floor of the Star tower. I feel like I'm missing something really obvious but I can't get more than 3 boulders free and that doesn't seem like enough to reach the pressure plate.

[Dr Lancer-X]

Lachesis, on 05 September 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

hint

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[Lachesis]

In case anyone else finds it useful, saves made in MZX 2.9x can be updated to a newer version of red with some manual work. Required tools: Info-ZIP zip and unzip, a hex editor, the MegaZeux editor.

• Back up your save.
  
• Use Info-ZIP unzip to extract the counters and strings from the old save file.
  

  unzip saveslot0.sav counter string
  

  
  
• Use Info-ZIP zip to create a new counters save file.
  

  zip temp.ctr counter string
  

  
  
• Use a hex editor to prefix the MZX counters save file with the following 8 capital letters: COUNTERS
  
• Use Info-ZIP zip to fix the file header offsets in the counters save.
  

  zip -F temp.ctr --out temp2.ctr
  

  
  It should print this:
  

  Fix archive (-F) - assume mostly intact archive
  Zip entry offsets appear off by 8 bytes - correcting...
   copying: counter
   copying: string
  
  

  
  
• Open the MegaZeux editor in the folder containing red.mzx, create a robot with the following program, and test the world (Alt+T).
  

  set "temp2.ctr" to "LOAD_COUNTERS"
  set "__transfer_save" to 1
  swap world "red.mzx"
  

  
  
• If everything looks right, you can now use the menu to overwrite the save slot.

If anyone needs their 2.9x saves updated but doesn't know what any of this means, Lancer or I can probably throw together a tool for it. I think this probably only matters for me since I was running red 1.01(!) instead of 1.06 somehow.