[ZzCrook]

I saw a post by Knightt on Zeuxworld asking this question, and it got me thinking. What is everyone's opinion? I would've done a poll, but there's so many ways to go with this one.

Personally, I believe aliens do exist. Whether they're hostile or not, who knows. If they've visited Earth (or if they're living here) is something to think about. I doubt they're hostile. An advanced race of beings would probably have the technology to reproduce any resources as they're needed, so the theory of conquering an entire planet seems unrealistic. They wouldn't need us as slaves, simply due to (once again) technology. They'd have machines to do the work. I've heard of many stories about people being abducted and using us to create human/alien hybrid offspring. This also seems unlikely. If we can create (or clone) a baby in a lab in an artificial womb, I'm sure they can too.

If aliens have visited Earth, I'm betting it's only to study us, and our culture, in the same way our modernized world studies primitive African tribes.

[LogiCow]

I don't think they exist at all.

Or else they are just bacteria and stuff.

[zombieguy]

I don't think they've ever visited earth, though I do think there is the possibility of their existance.
Just my opinion...

[deadmanwalking777]

of course there are aliens. you know how big the universe is?
It's infinatly big .there has to be more then one planet that can support life.

[hob nado]

I really doubt they do.

[joepsycho]

who do you think made the pyramids? Egyptians?! Puh! yeah right!

[inmate2993]

If aliens exist, it's gotta be like, fungii, or bacteria. I don't think theres any other intelligent life in the universe, and I'm even suspicious of there being ANY intelligent life in the universe.

[Pyro1588]

well, some people consider me proof of alien life, but i'm not sure how accurate that is.
i kinda doubt that aliens exist, but who knows?
if they do, then are they as advanced as we are? do they have the capability for hispeed space travel? (and no, faster-than-light travel is not possible.) if they do, then have they just not noticed us yet, or have they decided that we aren't worth talking to?
questions, questions. good topic starter.

[commodorejohn]

Heh, who knows. Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't really assume that they do unless we get some contact from them. Would be kinda neat though.

[Selan p]

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of course there are aliens. you know how big the universe is?
It's infinatly big .there has to be more then one planet that can support life.

There are no infinities. The Universe is big, and getting bigger all the time, but it has boundaries, and as such is in no way infinite.

Anyways. On the topic of aliens... There's a tough one.
Okay, think about the rare conditions needed for life (as we know it) to survive. Now think about how little planets exist in those conditions. Now think about how unlikely the growth of life is. Now think about all the stuff that could wipe it out.
Not good chances.
But on the other hand, there are aLOT of planets out there, and we don't know that life HAS to be anything like Earthen life, so...

Selan has no real opinion on this. Just adding to the conversation.

[Pyro1588]

and how do you know that there's no such thing as infinity? have you ever seen the boundry of the universe? if not, then there's no way to tell if the universe is infinite.

[Nytar]

I believe aliens exist. At least it could help explain me and my logic.

[LogiCow]

joepsycho, on Oct 7 2003, 04:16 PM, said:

who do you think made the pyramids? Egyptians?! Puh! yeah right!

Egyptians. Because they had thousands of years to do it.
And I don't see why aliens would build that.

Or, mankind was created to serve as slaves
A superior race biogenetically created us. And then they built pyramids for shelter and they named the egyptian gods as their leaders.

Not that I believe the later.

[JangoFett]

I doubt very much aliens exist! That's such a stupid Idea!

[Terryn]

Jango: Tone yourself down plzkthx :<

Anyway, current estimates (as current as summer of this year, anyway) theorise that the universe is infinite from observations of mircowave rays. The possibility for any one planet/moon to have conditions for sustaining life are very small, but considering the gargantuan amounts of celestial bodies there's bound to be at least one other place with life on it. Hell, scientists are observing Europa (one of Jupiter's moons) because they beleive that there is a good chance of life on that moon.

As for intelligent life visiting Earth, I highly doubt it. There'd have to be either some way of travel that allows transdimensional travel or one has to find a way to create stasis without destroying the creature in stasis (freezing someone won't work, the water inside of them would tear them up internally as ice crystals).

[Fungahhh]

I think there's a decent chance of other intelligent life out there, considering how incredibly large the universe is. I doubt that there'd ever be much of a chance of meeting others though, especially if it's true that light speed is as fast as one could move.

[Skylark]

I think that we'd be pretty damn selfish to assume that if the universe is never-ending, we're the only intelligent, living species. Incredibly selfish.

[lsopht]

Oh, come on. Anyone that comes from another country is an alien!

But, I think there is a chance of there being aliens in space. The universe is big, which has been mentioned. Now, if they could travel from there home planet, hundreds and thousands of light years away, and still be alive by the time they get here, I'd definately be impressed by that.

[Smallhacker]

Ok... How big are the chances that Earth is the ONLY inhabited planet in the universe?

Btw... I belive in ghosts too... (No, SERIOUSLY!!!)

[Goshi]

Read my posts.

My true opinion is that Aliens ONCE existed.

[Taitorian]

Aliens, in all probability, exist. And who says a planet has to be like Earth to support life, anyway? We're finding here on earth there are organisms that can survive conditions so incredibly harsh that no other life could possibly exist there. That said, when you think about it, virtually any world can support life... So who knows.

As far as intelligent life goes, well... Equal probability, but intelligent life besides ourselves - if humans do in fact count as intelligent life - existing in this solar system is a bit of a long shot... Oh well.

[ShloobeR]

I believe aliens may exist but they might as well not because no-one in their right mind would travel thousands and thousands (etc...) of light years just to meet some blob of slime you can't communicate with.

[inmate2993]

See, I base my argument that theres no other intelligent life in the universe on the fact that the development of humanity was a highly improbable event. I'l give you a for instance.

Look at Europe's development since the start and then look at Africa's development. Both started as warrior tribes that foraged for food and hunted and stuff. Simple societies. Now, Think about the middle-eastern societies, the Akkadians, Babylonians. Consider Greece, Rome, etc. There is no record of any greater societies from Africa below the equator. For that matter, look at South America as well. Its only in the northern hemisphere that societies advanced. The major attributing factor to this is the North Star, which is not visible from the southern hemisphere (I take this info from a history channel documentary I saw). For large societies to exist, you have to have roads of communication between smaller societies that eventually combine. In order to facilitate communication, you need travellers and merchants and stuff that navigate between. To navigate long distances, you need a reference point, and its well known that ancients used the stars to find their way.

Whats my point, human life was very very improbable. If there are aliens out in the universe, they hunt in packs and speak in clicks and dances. I very much so doubt that theres an alien race out there capable of putting their people into space.

[Terryn]

inny, you could be onto something there.

However, there's something I'd like to point out: The Southern Hemisphere has the Southern Cross, which is pretty helpful but nowhere near the help of a pole star.

[deadmanwalking777]

inmate, thats a good point, but your basing that on what humans have done in the past. Humans have two legs, two arms, can't run fast, can't fly, can't swim very fast or very well, and get tired/hungry/cranky, therefore we had to force ourselves to think or else we would have been some sort of animal dropping. aliens, on the other hand, we know absolutly nothing about, so how do we know they had to use stars to find their way? they might be smart like us and have some sort of other abillity. or they might have there own north star and be exsactly like us.

anyway, the possibiltys are pretty much endless. now i'll go back into my corner.

[apage43]

Hrmmm. Well, I think aliens do more than likely exist.
I don't know why everyone thinks aliens would be more intelligent than us, though, or
why they would want to visit us, even if they did have the technology, and we've pretty
much determined that there are more than likely no aliens for REALLY REALLY far away.
And because things eveolve to become smarter or more intelligent, by the time an alien
even got here, wouldn't it seem kinda dumb by the current standards? I'm assuming that
we're on the same level here. What's to say most aliens even really think, what about plants?
I'm not sure, but aren't plants more likely to develop than animals? I don't think a tree on a planet
lightyears away would want to visit us, would send any sort of radio waves signaling existance
or even care if anyone thinks it exists, or if anyone else does. But still, if there are intelligent aliens,
they didn't just pop up intelligent, and still had to work like us, and probably are more concerned
with their own lives, than visiting us, And I think most of us probably feel the same way.

[Mr. Apol]

Okay, look at life. Anyone here taken some Biology. Even simple life is AMAZINGLY complex. Just look at the process of photosynthesis. I mean, it's fucking A M A Z I N G that life even HAPPENED. I personally think that "life" as in clumps of specialized organic compounds working together to make an organism is insanely rare. Maybe we're just THE cosmic fluke. The universe, IMHO, is infinitely big, but finite in size. Not the best explanation, but I believe the universe is a hyper-sphere or hyper-doughnut. So, it's like Starfox 64 in multiplayer, or Asteroids. It's infinite, because when you reach the sides you simply curve back where you started. So, you can never reach the end, but you keep looping.

But, in the end, it doesn't matter if there's life or not. Scientists express concern over the sun dying. But, the smart ones realize that it doesn't matter if the sun disappears, because there are other suns. What you should be worried about is atomic decay. Eventually, even atoms themselves will cease to be, and there will be no matter in the universe. Of course, it'll take long after the last star has exhausted it's fuel, but it will happen because of the inherent flaws in our universe. Maybe there's a universe where all 10 dimensions are still together, and there isn't atomic decay, but maybe I'm just rambling about things that I have no understanding of... (right Wervyn? ^_^)

[Pyro1588]

or the rapture comes and we all get swished off, then the earth gets burned up. that way, we don't have to worry about solar or atomic decay. it's a lot simpler.

apollyon:interesting theory on the finiteness of the universe. food for thought.

[NoahSoft]

I have two theorys.

1:
It's like Merbotia. Aliens are herding us to create one final product that will somehow help them. Everything that is happening is leading up to one final result.

2:
Think about this: In all the alien movies, aliens can travel to earth, but we can never travel to their home planet. What do we have differently? SHOES! If humans didn't wear shoes they'd be a whole lot smarter and we could find out if there are aliens.

[Pyro1588]

noah:

1: that's chrono trigger, not merbotia.

2: i wear flip flops and i'm pulling straight A's!